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A WhatsApp purge in Parliament? - Parliament Matters podcast, Episode 73

14 Feb 2025
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In this episode we dissect the fallout from Labour’s WhatsApp purge following the Andrew Gwynne affair and what it means for political communication at Westminster. We also explore the latest news from the House of Commons Modernisation Committee, discussing its focus on improving accessibility to Parliament, legislative scrutiny, and the debate over MPs holding second jobs.

First, we examine Labour’s swift response to a controversial WhatsApp group where MPs and councillors shared offensive remarks about colleagues, constituents, and even the late Queen. Keir Starmer wasted no time, suspending multiple party members in a move that has sent shockwaves through Westminster. Mark explores how WhatsApp has become a vital yet risky tool in modern politics and how this scandal could set a precedent for future digital leaks. As MPs rush to delete old messages, we ask: is this just the beginning of a new era of political exposés?

Next, we turn to parliamentary reform. The newly established Modernisation Committee has set out its priority strands of work: improving accessibility to Parliament, making Commons time more effective, and giving MPs greater certainty about the parliamentary schedule. But what will these reforms actually look like? And where does the overhaul of the legislative process fit into the picture?

Finally, we tackle the ongoing debate over MPs holding second jobs. Should parliamentarians be allowed to take on paid work outside Westminster? While some argue that experience in law, medicine, or business enriches political debate, others believe outside roles dilute MPs’ commitment to their constituents. The controversy surrounding high-profile MPs hosting TV shows - particularly on GB News - raises fresh questions about which types of second jobs should be restricted. Should media roles face tighter controls than other professions? And could stricter rules unintentionally discourage professionals from entering politics?

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[00:00:00] Speaker: You are listening to Parliament Matters, a Hansard Society production, supported by the Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust. Learn more at hansardsociety.org.uk.

[00:00:17] Ruth Fox: Welcome to Parliament Matters, the podcast about the institution at the heart of our democracy, Parliament itself. I'm Ruth Fox.

[00:00:24] Mark D'Arcy: And I'm Mark Darcy. And coming up this week.

[00:00:27] Ruth Fox: Labour's WhatsApp purge. What might it mean for future scandals?

[00:00:31] Mark D'Arcy: The Commons leader unveils her outline plans for more modernisation.

[00:00:36] Ruth Fox: And how far, if at all, should MPs be allowed to have a second job on top of their parliamentary work?

[00:00:48] Mark D'Arcy: So first Ruth, let's talk about the Andrew Gwynne affair. Now if you tilt your head just so in the middle of Parliament Square and listen very hard, you'll just be able to discern this repeated soft popping sound. It took me a while to figure out actually what it was. It's the sound of WhatsApp groups being deleted across Westminster, across parties, amongst ministers, amongst special advisers, amongst parliamentary staffers, who knows, even maybe amongst parliamentary clerks.

[00:01:15] And this is the result of the defenestration of the health minister, Andrew Gwynne. He was part of a, how can I describe it, somewhat louche WhatsApp group, which was called "TriggerMeTimbers", an amusing little pun, in which, amongst other things, they mocked all sorts of people, parliamentary colleagues, Her Majesty the late Queen.

[00:01:36] He talked about hoping a constituent would die soon, certainly wouldn't be able to vote in a forthcoming election, and a variety of other comments that varied from bad taste to outright third form school bully nasty.

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